Cover hexes - before or after? - Guild Wars Forums

refer · Apr 20, 2009, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I just read the wiki entry, but I don't think I get which way it is. So I'm just asking. Is it?

A) Cover -> main
B) Main -> cover

ZenRgy · Apr 20, 2009, 09:09 AM // 09:09

The last hex on the target goes on top.

Hence, you cast your main - then your cover.

refer · Apr 20, 2009, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

The last hex on the target goes on top.

Hence, you cast your main - then your cover.

Ok, thanks! I was expecting somebody to say A or B though lol, and this whole time I thought it was the other way around. Oh well, my skill bar is usually too full anyways or it'd be something I can't reach for fast enough.

**Marty Silverblade** · Apr 20, 2009, 10:27 AM // 10:27

In general, think of it as a cookie jar; the new stuff goes on top, and if you want the stuff at the bottom, you have to get past the top stuff first.

code1101 · Apr 20, 2009, 12:44 PM // 12:44

but some foes are too fast at removing hexes and by the time you finish casting your cover hex your main hex would have been already removed. not to mention [expel hexes] which can remove 2 hexes at once (your main hex and your cover hex) or [divert hex] or others that can overcome stacked hexes. what I do is cast an aoe hex first (this is the so called cover hex but it is actually the dummy hex) then enemies remove as much as they can with their hex removal spells then I cast my main hex.This is a better technique since most hex removal skills have a long recharge time and I found this to be very effective specially if the target enemy has [hex breaker].

Johny bravo · Apr 20, 2009, 01:01 PM // 13:01

It is called a cover hex because that is what it is. The idea is for it to be a fast cast hex that you can get over your main hex so it stays on. Depending on what the meta is at the time really dictates what sort of hex stack you are running. Is there is a lot of multiple hex removal bringing cover hexes won't be effective and you may want to bring more hexes to spread around instead of stacking them on one person.

There was a good point with hex breaker though. If a lot of people are running hex breaker then a quick and cheap hex with a short recharge is great to burn it.

Of course PvE is a whole other strategy as you really need to know the area you are going into. If there is a lot of hex removal you may just want to change up you build to be something else or like I said above spread them around. They can't remove all of them

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 20, 2009, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

In general, think of it as a cookie jar; the new stuff goes on top, and if you want the stuff at the bottom, you have to get past the top stuff first.

cookie jar ftw =D

TheodenKing · Apr 20, 2009, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Cover hex is applied immediately after the hex you really care about. But as one person stated above, also remember that some foes who you know only have one hex removal will use it immediately upon you hexing them. So it can be smart to use a dumby hex to get them to use their removal prior to you applying the hex you want to stick. Then follow with a cover.

Hanging Man · Apr 20, 2009, 04:52 PM // 16:52

usually your going to want to put your main hex on target first.
Example

[lingering curse] goes on first since it is your elite hex
[suffering] goes on second acting as a cover hex so the monk or someone doesn't remove lingering curse but removes a less important hex

usually [parasitic bond] is a cover hex because of its low energy and recharge. making it a perfect candidate for covering.

Rak Orgon of Beowulf · Apr 20, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

In general, think of it as a cookie jar; the new stuff goes on top, and if you want the stuff at the bottom, you have to get past the top stuff first.

LOL nice one Marty. Thats perfect.

On topic: Cover over main.

:-)

refer · Apr 20, 2009, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Hanging Man

usually your going to want to put your main hex on target first.
Example

[lingering curse] goes on first since it is your elite hex
[suffering] goes on second acting as a cover hex so the monk or someone doesn't remove lingering curse but removes a less important hex

usually [parasitic bond] is a cover hex because of its low energy and recharge. making it a perfect candidate for covering.

I didn't know about Suffering, thanks. I usually use Parasitic Bond or Wastrel's Worry for those 10 second hexes.

Saphrium · Apr 21, 2009, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Simply put, B is correct.

Apr 20, 2009, 09:01 AM // 09:01	#1
refer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US	Cover hexes - before or after? I just read the wiki entry, but I don't think I get which way it is. So I'm just asking. Is it? A) Cover -> main B) Main -> cover Last edited by refer; Apr 20, 2009 at 09:05 AM // 09:05.. Reason: typo

Apr 20, 2009, 10:27 AM // 10:27	#4
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	In general, think of it as a cookie jar; the new stuff goes on top, and if you want the stuff at the bottom, you have to get past the top stuff first. __________________

Apr 20, 2009, 12:44 PM // 12:44	#5
code1101 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007	but some foes are too fast at removing hexes and by the time you finish casting your cover hex your main hex would have been already removed. not to mention [expel hexes] which can remove 2 hexes at once (your main hex and your cover hex) or [divert hex] or others that can overcome stacked hexes. what I do is cast an aoe hex first (this is the so called cover hex but it is actually the dummy hex) then enemies remove as much as they can with their hex removal spells then I cast my main hex.This is a better technique since most hex removal skills have a long recharge time and I found this to be very effective specially if the target enemy has [hex breaker]. Last edited by code1101; Apr 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM // 12:53..

Apr 20, 2009, 09:09 AM // 09:09	#2
ZenRgy Zookeeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&# Profession: N/E	The last hex on the target goes on top. Hence, you cast your main - then your cover.

Apr 20, 2009, 01:01 PM // 13:01	#6
Johny bravo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: [SoS] Profession: N/	It is called a cover hex because that is what it is. The idea is for it to be a fast cast hex that you can get over your main hex so it stays on. Depending on what the meta is at the time really dictates what sort of hex stack you are running. Is there is a lot of multiple hex removal bringing cover hexes won't be effective and you may want to bring more hexes to spread around instead of stacking them on one person. There was a good point with hex breaker though. If a lot of people are running hex breaker then a quick and cheap hex with a short recharge is great to burn it. Of course PvE is a whole other strategy as you really need to know the area you are going into. If there is a lot of hex removal you may just want to change up you build to be something else or like I said above spread them around. They can't remove all of them

Apr 20, 2009, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#8
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	Cover hex is applied immediately after the hex you really care about. But as one person stated above, also remember that some foes who you know only have one hex removal will use it immediately upon you hexing them. So it can be smart to use a dumby hex to get them to use their removal prior to you applying the hex you want to stick. Then follow with a cover.

Apr 20, 2009, 04:52 PM // 16:52	#9
Hanging Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the Shire	usually your going to want to put your main hex on target first. Example [lingering curse] goes on first since it is your elite hex [suffering] goes on second acting as a cover hex so the monk or someone doesn't remove lingering curse but removes a less important hex usually [parasitic bond] is a cover hex because of its low energy and recharge. making it a perfect candidate for covering.

Apr 21, 2009, 03:44 AM // 03:44	#12
Saphrium Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Granite Citadel Guild: Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants Profession: N/Me	Simply put, B is correct.